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Drakul

I want people to consume their minds emotionally and psychologically while they're being consumed by what I represent through my live performances.

Reza Reza

Mas Drakul, What is your actual real name? Honestly, the first time I heard it, it sounded pretty intimidating. I was afraid you'd bite my neck and suck my blood! Hahaha.

Haidar Haidar

Hahaha, my real name is Haidar, and don't be afraid of it. I'm just a family man.

Reza Reza

I've been a bit out of touch with the Purwokerto scene for a while. When I first saw my friends' posts on Instagram, I was wondering, are you a rapper, or what is your project actually about?

Haidar Haidar

Yes, since Hip Hop is one of my musical elements. But I love combining experimental and darker themes, both sonically and visually, into it.

Reza Reza

I've seen you perform a few times, and the concept is always so different. You rap, you play electronic music, and you're frequently collaborating with the noise kids. Where do you actually feel most at home?

Haidar Haidar

Hell yeah, noise and experimental gigs. When I go to their gigs or even do live performances, I can just freely express myself. I'm pretty comfortable even experimenting with weird performance acts at their gigs.

Reza Reza

One thing I genuinely admire about you is your style. That gothic-metal look really stands out. Could you tell us more about it?

Haidar Haidar

Nothing more than bringing a grim, vampiric appearance into my style, but I will try experimenting with different approaches for future projects.

Reza Reza

By the way, I want to clarify, is it true that when you got married, your dowry (mas kawin) was actually an "Elektron"?

Haidar Haidar

Yes. About 3–4 months before our marriage, my wife tried my friend's synthesizer, a Korg wavestate, and she liked it. I once collaborated with my wife at Distrik Kobar on a small gig just to mess around. I used an Elektron Analog Four and she used the wavestate. Then I thought I should buy her some new gear, and here goes the Elektron Digitone II for her.

Reza Reza

Since your name is Drakul, I have to ask, are you secretly following or a believer in some kind of "Satanic cult"? Don't worry, I won't tell anyone, but is this just part of your persona or is there something... "spooky" going on behind the scenes? Hahaha.

Haidar Haidar

No, but I love digging into esoteric subjects, religious movements, and cult/occult figures. Some of them are well known: Grigori Rasputin, Aleister Crowley, Shoko Asahara, John Dee, and Francis Barrett, to obscure figures like Fujimoto Ito, Hase Yoshio, Baba Keenaram, and many more. I retrieve ideas from them as well, lyrically.

Reza Reza

How important are visuals to Drakul? Costume, makeup, stage props, and all the little details that build your character?

Haidar Haidar

Super important since visual is an essential for a world building of my album and I am very welcome to anyone who enters into it and without specific visual references I'll be having no world to live in my music.

Reza Reza

How different is Drakul on stage from Haidar in daily life? Do you think the music and persona affect how you live outside the stage?

Haidar Haidar

Utterly different, I don't think that you'll see Dracul in my real life.

Reza Reza

How do you see the development of the music and the scene right now?

Haidar Haidar

A lot of musicians have come out with their own unique sound, character, and world-building nowadays, and it's always fun to discover them. Music is just getting wilder and wilder, evolving into many different forms.

Reza Reza

Who are your top 5 main musical references? It can be any band or solo artist you choose.

Haidar Haidar

As of now, I'm producing my second album. These are my musical references:

Himukalt — Torn Asunder: The Half Girl

Contagious Orgasm — A New Home For The Fetus

African Imperial Wizard — Ndongo

Blokkontrol — Odin Na Odin

Eddie Dark — DISKO-TERRORISTA

Reza Reza

What kind of core message do you bring through your works?

Haidar Haidar

I want people to consume their minds emotionally and psychologically while they're being consumed by what I represent through my live performances. I sometimes imagine if the crowd could freely express themselves and do whatever they want to do, feel the resonance, and let their minds shift their motion.

Reza Reza

Do you have any specific or special process when creating your music?

Haidar Haidar

Randomly experimenting with sounds in a DAW or on my synthesizer can trigger ideas for making a track. Once I have the song structure, I basically create bass and drum patterns first, then continue adding tonal and atonal elements.

I only write lyrics when I start imagining things or get lost in them, and when I see or read new things that I've never discovered before. That's how I gather fragmented ideas into my music. So basically, I produce the audio first, write the lyrics, and then record it. Nothing fancy.

If I get blocked, I sometimes randomly discover experimental, avant-garde, industrial, EBM, and black metal artists on Bandcamp. For example, with Contagious Orgasm's The Entrance With Its Dark, Ominous Tiles, it sounds sonically weird sexually creepy, but somehow divine and horrifyingly meditative at the same time. Once I grasp the pulse of it, I try to translate those impressions into sound. If I think the result sucks, I'll do it again and again with different sources.

Reza Reza

When you prepare a live set, how do you translate your recorded tracks into the live setup with Kalasvvara, the MPC One+, and your Analog Four? How much is planned and how much happens spontaneously?

Haidar Haidar

for liveset I separate the stems and send it to my partner Kalasvvara to play it on his Akai MPC One+ and pair it with my Elektron Analog Four. Sometimes we improvise by doing the freestyle rap with Industrial track we made with Analog Four on the mid live performance and I do want to continue experimenting with different gears!

Reza Reza

You've mentioned wanting to keep experimenting with different gear. Is there any particular setup, instrument, or weird performance idea you really want to try next?

Haidar Haidar

We're still developing the performance, planning about the setup, mix matching the gear as well since it take so much time for us to combine everything in between. It could be synth, it could be instrument like bell, gong, and even steel, it could be a butoh dancer, etc i don't know we're still developing

Reza Reza

Any closing statement in just a few words?

Haidar Haidar

Being sane and insane at the same time is pretty fucking good.

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